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i don't know where the cia was. in other words, it was sort of like panetta alone, which doesn't strike me as a very responsible way to handle a crisis. who's on first, what's on second over there? ann. >> oh, sorry. i thought i'd had my say. no, i agree, this is a major story. americans were dying. on a few news outlets you would hear about this before the election, that there was time to get helicopters there, to get fighter planes there, to have saved some of these americans and we get the cock and bull story about some american made video ramping up a spontaneous demonstration and now we find out the president of the united states and secretary of state were awol. >> mark, doesn't this embarrass you? maybe this is why leon panetta is getting the heck out. maybe he doesn't want to work with people that he didn't work with during an emergency like this. >> larry, the first thing people need to remember is that this was predominantly an attack on america, not necessarily a coverup by america. yes, there was a crisi
i don't know where the cia was. in other words, it was sort of like panetta alone, which doesn't strike me as a very responsible way to handle a crisis. who's on first, what's on second over there? ann. >> oh, sorry. i thought i'd had my say. no, i agree, this is a major story. americans were dying. on a few news outlets you would hear about this before the election, that there was time to get helicopters there, to get fighter planes there, to have saved some of these americans and we get...
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this would have been a cia strike. you look at the amount of scrutiny and debate and consternation that is engulfed the administration over the targeted killing of a u.s. citizen, even one who has been reported to be planning strikes on the u.s. you would only compound that by putting the u.s. military in that mix. >> chris, thanks. i want to bring in michael here. first of all, saudi arabia, i mean covering president bush, this is something that you knew, you knew you had assets on the ground, but this is not something that the saudis or the u.s. government wanted to officially acknowledge here. how much of this is a problem for both sides including the saudis? >> there's a mutual need for friendship in that part of the world. the saudi's need u.s. help when it comes to equipment. we sell planes, helicopters, train their pilots, there's a security cooperation agreement in place. we need it for the geopolitical factor of having want a footprint in that part of the world. there were u.s. troops based there, 10,000 after
this would have been a cia strike. you look at the amount of scrutiny and debate and consternation that is engulfed the administration over the targeted killing of a u.s. citizen, even one who has been reported to be planning strikes on the u.s. you would only compound that by putting the u.s. military in that mix. >> chris, thanks. i want to bring in michael here. first of all, saudi arabia, i mean covering president bush, this is something that you knew, you knew you had assets on the...
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. >>> and adding to the drama, john brennan, the president's pick to head the cia and the architect of the drone policy, he'll appear before the senate intelligence committee today. lots to talk about with barbara starr who's following all these developments for us this morning from the pentagon. barbara, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, soledad. all about spice and drones this morning, isn't it? well, this video has not yet been confirmed as the genuine article by the administration, the pentagon or the cia but it's getting a lot of attention. if you look at it, it's perhaps not so compelling itself, but there's plenty to try and figure out. let's get to that in a minute. but i want you first to listen to -- we translated some of the voice on the tape describing what you're looking at. have a listen. >> translator: this air craft has had many flights in countries around iran. in operations that have taken place in pakistan, this aircraft has provided guidance. >> reporter: so a claim there of u.s. spying on iran and that's really what this is all about. if this is the genuine
. >>> and adding to the drama, john brennan, the president's pick to head the cia and the architect of the drone policy, he'll appear before the senate intelligence committee today. lots to talk about with barbara starr who's following all these developments for us this morning from the pentagon. barbara, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, soledad. all about spice and drones this morning, isn't it? well, this video has not yet been confirmed as the genuine article by the...
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president obama's big pick for cia director up for con fir make in a few hours. but will members of his own party derail it? >> i don't know. >> lots of drama. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm zoraida sambolinment. >> i'm john berman. it's thursday, february 7th. 5:00 a.m. in the east. let's get started. up first, brace yourselves, bundle up, buy a shovel. this will be a big one. at this moment a blaizzard watc is in effects for new england. a storm is headed that way and could be historihistoric. it could drop two feet of snow in some places and it all starts tomorrow. you told us this was coming yesterday, you were on top of this one. >> we're trying. boston could rival its worst blizzard from 2003 which had 27 1/2 inches. all of this talks about two storm systems coming together. the first one here, notice in the south, all instability, a tornado warming out there for plaquemines parish. this is moving off to the east. we will watch this produce heavy showers even through atlanta. a low will form, become a rain and wind event as it moves across or n
president obama's big pick for cia director up for con fir make in a few hours. but will members of his own party derail it? >> i don't know. >> lots of drama. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm zoraida sambolinment. >> i'm john berman. it's thursday, february 7th. 5:00 a.m. in the east. let's get started. up first, brace yourselves, bundle up, buy a shovel. this will be a big one. at this moment a blaizzard watc is in effects for new england. a storm is...
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that's john brennan, the cia nominee. his hearing began with more than show than tell when a series of protesters interrupted the democratic chair and then targeted lethal force and the drone's program. listen to this. >> john brennan, you're endangering my generation. people my age -- >> if i might ask -- all right. i am going to ask that this room be cleared right now. would the capitol police please come in and clear the room. >> reporter: there were five disruptions in all, wolf, and in the end they did clear the room of the code pink protesters. senator dianne feinstein then let the hearing resume after about a ten-minute break with a lot of empty chairs in there. she is allowed to ask them to leave when there are disruptions that sort of determined at the discretion of the chair, wolf. >> there's been a bunch of questions on what's called enhanced interrogation. some call it torcher on very, very sensitive issues. what did he have to say? >> reporter: the nominee in the past has said that he opposed enhanced interro
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john brennan, the president's pick for cia director will face a tough confirmation hearing. lawmakers on both sides are upset about a program that was once overseen by brennan. a program that backed the use of drones to kill americans overseas. >>> earlier this morning president obama spoke at the national prayer breakfast. he shared a hope that both parties will remember and carry on the lessons of past leaders. >> in the midst of all of these debates, we must keep that same humility that dr. king and lincoln, washington and all our great leaders understood is at the core of true leadership. in a democracy as big and as diverse as ours, we will encounter every opinion. >> the president joked that sometimes after the breakfast it feels like they never even prayed. to the great lakes record low water levels. detroit officials say they are at their lowest levels since recordkeeping began in 1918. experts blame lower than average snowfalls and last year's hot and dry summer. the low water levels could affect shipping and fish populations. she's everything to you. but your erect
john brennan, the president's pick for cia director will face a tough confirmation hearing. lawmakers on both sides are upset about a program that was once overseen by brennan. a program that backed the use of drones to kill americans overseas. >>> earlier this morning president obama spoke at the national prayer breakfast. he shared a hope that both parties will remember and carry on the lessons of past leaders. >> in the midst of all of these debates, we must keep that same...
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john brennan goes before the senate for confirmation as cia director on thursday, where he's expected to face tough questions about the targeted killings. as one of the chief architects of the controversial obama program, he's defended the program in the past. >> we conduct targeted strikes, because they are necessary to mitigate an actual ongoing threat, to stop plots, prevent future attacks, and to save american lives. >> now, a bipartisan group of senators led by democrats wants to see a classified version of this document. there is a classified legal opinion, they believe there's more information in there they want to review. they say if they do not get it, some of the nominations for national security officials, perhaps even brennan's, maybe held up in the senate. wolf? >> all right, barbara, thank you. later this hour, we'll have a major debate on the president's policies on these drones' so-called kill list, including the killing of americans. that's coming up later this hour. kate balduan is here. you've got some new details on what happened 24 hours ago, almost exactly. >> on
john brennan goes before the senate for confirmation as cia director on thursday, where he's expected to face tough questions about the targeted killings. as one of the chief architects of the controversial obama program, he's defended the program in the past. >> we conduct targeted strikes, because they are necessary to mitigate an actual ongoing threat, to stop plots, prevent future attacks, and to save american lives. >> now, a bipartisan group of senators led by democrats wants...
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the cia is not immune from the scrutiny of these efforts, and i welcome a discussion of the cia's past and present activities. welcomeselected, i've an investigation of the interrogation techniques. i read the report that raises a number of serious issues. given the gravity and important -- importance of this subject, i look forward to a report on the committee's findings if i am confirmed. in addition, some of our government's counterterrorism policies and operations have sparked widespread debate, domestically, internationally, and in this room. i have publicly acknowledged that our fight against al qaeda and its associated forces have sometimes involved the use of lethal force outside the hotbed battlefield of afghanistan. accordingly, it makes sense that there is interest in the legal basis as well as that threshold, criteria, processes, procedures and reviews of such actions. i have strongly promoted reviews of such actions with the congress and the american people, as i believe our system of government and our commitment to transparency demands nothing less. as the elected repres
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good to share with me how you see the cia and what you think about this militarization of the cia? >> thank you, senator. >> you can disagree with me. >> senator, the principal missions of the agency is to collect intelligence and uncover secrets to prevent strategic surprises. at times, the president asked and directs the cia to do covert action. it could take many forms. as we discussed today on the counterterrorism front, there are things the agency has been involved in since 9/11 that has been a bit of an aberration from its traditional role. i would take a look at that allocation of mission within the cia and the resources dedicated to it. i am concerned that looking at the world, which is a big place, we need to make sure we have the best intelligence collections possibility. the cia should not be doing traditional military activities. >> thank you. i look forward to working on identifying what cia does. pertaining to the issue of the cyber threat, both secretary panetta and general dempsey and several others and we at the white house have talked about the cyber threat. we ar
good to share with me how you see the cia and what you think about this militarization of the cia? >> thank you, senator. >> you can disagree with me. >> senator, the principal missions of the agency is to collect intelligence and uncover secrets to prevent strategic surprises. at times, the president asked and directs the cia to do covert action. it could take many forms. as we discussed today on the counterterrorism front, there are things the agency has been involved in...
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he was told we are the cia. he said i will tell you anything you want to know. >> the cartoonish version of it is let me tell you who we are. i heard about you. he was actually cooperative. >> just the existence. >> yes. back to the ambiguity. one thing that does come across in the movie, but you have to watch it very carefully, the most powerful tool we had in every interrogation we conducted was our knowledge. not one or another technique. >> once you got through the enhanced interrogation process then the real interrogation began, the debriefing. that is with the skill and knowledge with the people who were conducting the sessions. the knowledge base was so good that these people knew that we were not going to be fooled. we had other prisoners in our sights. we would be able to check information against others. they knew that. we mentioned the takedown. they did not know how much khalid sheikh mohammed had told us about $50,000. we would go and give him what we have heard from khalid sheikh mohammed and he th
he was told we are the cia. he said i will tell you anything you want to know. >> the cartoonish version of it is let me tell you who we are. i heard about you. he was actually cooperative. >> just the existence. >> yes. back to the ambiguity. one thing that does come across in the movie, but you have to watch it very carefully, the most powerful tool we had in every interrogation we conducted was our knowledge. not one or another technique. >> once you got through the...
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to be interrogated by the cia -- i will try not to break. [laughter] abu musab al-zarqawi was from a lower middle class background. he became radicalized while in prison. then became associated with al qaeda near the end of the mujahedin. in afghanistan -- mujahedin period in afghanistan. he had been in iraq before, but he appeared on our radar screen at the end of 2003. he had already started to build an al qaeda in iraq infrastructure that leveraged sunni fear. it is pretty important to view how we saw it. i took over in the fall of 2003. i went to iraq. i got there in october. immediately, it was obvious to me that the situation in iraq was much worse than it appeared from from afar. i was coming out of the pentagon. it was clearly unsettled. it looked much worse than we had thought. the first hope was that if we got saddam hussein, that would solve the problem. we made an effort to do that. in december, we picked up saddam. it became obvious that, as one of my guys described, a bunch of former regime guys were not really running the begi
to be interrogated by the cia -- i will try not to break. [laughter] abu musab al-zarqawi was from a lower middle class background. he became radicalized while in prison. then became associated with al qaeda near the end of the mujahedin. in afghanistan -- mujahedin period in afghanistan. he had been in iraq before, but he appeared on our radar screen at the end of 2003. he had already started to build an al qaeda in iraq infrastructure that leveraged sunni fear. it is pretty important to view...
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he is expected to face questions on the cia drone program. we will be live with this program starting at 2:30 p.m. eastern also on c-span. >> if you go to most american history textbooks, if you go to the back of the textbooks you have in the basement, you can take me up on my bet. my bet with you is that in your american history textbooks in high school, you'll find no mention of eugenics. if you go to your biology books, you will find no mention of the word "eugenics. a biology books signed by most of the places, montana university, great textbooks, but i did not see any mention of eugenics. that is because we, scientists, no longer believe in eugenics, so we do not have to study it anymore. it was so awful that we can somehow pretend it is not part of american culture. >> part of lectures in history, saturday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern on american history tv. house speaker john boehner told reporters he will oppose a delay of automatic budget cuts without spending cuts and reforms. he was responding to president obama's call for a short-te
he is expected to face questions on the cia drone program. we will be live with this program starting at 2:30 p.m. eastern also on c-span. >> if you go to most american history textbooks, if you go to the back of the textbooks you have in the basement, you can take me up on my bet. my bet with you is that in your american history textbooks in high school, you'll find no mention of eugenics. if you go to your biology books, you will find no mention of the word "eugenics. a biology...
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the cia hiring literature students to come up with terrorist attacks. what is to say that the domestic drones of things of that nature, that one day we don't have -- supposedly, say another george bush takes office and supposedly iran has the drug system and start attacking our own citizens? that is a perspective we need to take a look at. that is why the people need the right to vote. for example, the predator system came out around 1983 or 1984, and in the same year it came out, hollywood put out the movie "predator." thank you. host: let's look reporting on john brennan's hearing. rick is next, from athens, texas. independent line. caller: how are you doing? host: how are you doing? caller: you look good -- you always look good in glasses. i know you did not have glasses. b you bausch and lomb to give you a contract -- host: what do you think about that drones strike programmer what is the boundary lines? caller: it is bad. it is never a good thing to remotely control killing -- war through remote-control. it is unconscionable. they can't tell who th
the cia hiring literature students to come up with terrorist attacks. what is to say that the domestic drones of things of that nature, that one day we don't have -- supposedly, say another george bush takes office and supposedly iran has the drug system and start attacking our own citizens? that is a perspective we need to take a look at. that is why the people need the right to vote. for example, the predator system came out around 1983 or 1984, and in the same year it came out, hollywood put...
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the government is refusing to acknowledge that the cia has a role in the drone programs. right now, in a court down the street from here, the government is maintaining that it cannot even say whether the cia is participating in its program. everyone in the world knows they are. if this is some big secret, it is the worst kept secret there is. it goes to a bigger problem, which is that because they have not been forthcoming, what we are instead relying on our selective leaks. it is whatever the administration or whatever someone who is disgruntled or upset with the program leaks out is what we know about it. what we are seeking is a fuller description of the program. the very homost fundamental process, and at the most fundamental level, we have a right to know, and everyone has a right to know what rules apply and what rules are being made up, what rules have been long- standing, what the process is. and we all can have a better understanding of what this so- called compliance with the rule of law is. host: mr. bellinger, your thoughts about the aclu suit? guest: the obam
the government is refusing to acknowledge that the cia has a role in the drone programs. right now, in a court down the street from here, the government is maintaining that it cannot even say whether the cia is participating in its program. everyone in the world knows they are. if this is some big secret, it is the worst kept secret there is. it goes to a bigger problem, which is that because they have not been forthcoming, what we are instead relying on our selective leaks. it is whatever the...
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commend you that i think it deserves real thought as to where the department of defense stops and the cia began, in terms of action and counter- terrorism action. i think there -- it would be worthwhile, if you are confirmed, to meet with mr. brennan to talk about coordination between the two agencies so do not end up with similar if not identical functions in different regions of the world with different command structures, rules of engagement, etc. -- counter- terrorism covers the gap or the relationship between traditional defense and the intelligence committee. -- community. >> that is an area that is becoming more relevant and complicated. title and reverses title 50. -- title n versus title 50. >> final thought -- but not think we can adequately assess the size and importance of the cyber threat. that may well be the war of the future. my sense is that we are not -- we are all talking about it, but i am not sure we have a sense of urgency. and the secretary panetta has increased our proposed increase of that capacity. people can die, and their society could be brought to a standstil
commend you that i think it deserves real thought as to where the department of defense stops and the cia began, in terms of action and counter- terrorism action. i think there -- it would be worthwhile, if you are confirmed, to meet with mr. brennan to talk about coordination between the two agencies so do not end up with similar if not identical functions in different regions of the world with different command structures, rules of engagement, etc. -- counter- terrorism covers the gap or the...
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it is about the cia. it is their intelligence gathering capabilities. it is also about public education. it is about non-defense matters. so i am hopeful that we can finally start voting in the senate rather than just complaining about what the house does. to the president, we bear responsibility as republicans for allowing this to happen. lead us to a better solution. if you do not, mr. president, he will go down in history in my view is one of the most irresponsible commanders in chief in the history of the country for what you have done, mr. president, that you allow the finest military in history of the world to deteriorate at a time that we needed it the most. let's not let that happen. >> let me just add or emphasize three quick points. one is, reducing civilians by attrition is a good idea, even at dod. i would remind you that yesterday, the recently departed secretary for policy argued in the washington post that we needed to reduce civilians at dod as a way of improving efficiency within the pentagon. i would say that applies to all the other a
it is about the cia. it is their intelligence gathering capabilities. it is also about public education. it is about non-defense matters. so i am hopeful that we can finally start voting in the senate rather than just complaining about what the house does. to the president, we bear responsibility as republicans for allowing this to happen. lead us to a better solution. if you do not, mr. president, he will go down in history in my view is one of the most irresponsible commanders in chief in the...
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secretary of defense, by the secretary of state, by the national security adviser, and the director of the cia that there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq. so for a lot of the decisions that were made at the outset, they were decisions that were informed with incorrect information. as the committee is judging senator hagel on that decision, i want to tell the committee what was the experience of this senator. what i would like to do with my time here is that since there are few of us in this room that served in the military during the vietnam era, and you clearly have that experience in combat. senator hagel -- by the way, a lot of people don't know anything about vietnam and don't know how difficult it was as senator warner has so eloquently stated in his comments, how the nation was divided. what i would like for you as the committee is getting to know you, know something about your service in vietnam and your combat experience. were you wounded, senator hagel? >> senator nelson, thank you. if i may, if i read into your question, some latitude in answering. i would respond this way -
secretary of defense, by the secretary of state, by the national security adviser, and the director of the cia that there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq. so for a lot of the decisions that were made at the outset, they were decisions that were informed with incorrect information. as the committee is judging senator hagel on that decision, i want to tell the committee what was the experience of this senator. what i would like to do with my time here is that since there are few of us in...
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told by the secretary of defense, secretary of state, national security adviser, and a director of the cia that there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq. for a lot of the decisions that were made at the outset, they were decisions that were informed with incorrect information. as the committee is judging hagel on that decision as others, i want to tell the committee that was the experience wasthis senator. -- with this senator. what i would like to do with my time, since there are a few of us in this room that served in the military during the vietnam era, and you clearly have that experience in combat, i would -- by the way, a lot of people do not know anything about vietnam and do not know how difficult it was of but how the nation was divided. i would like you, i would like to know something about your service and in vietnam and your combat experience. were you wounded? >> thank you. if i may, if i read into your question with some latitude in answering, i would responded this way. i think my time is better served to maybe talk about more of the specific things like senator mccain
told by the secretary of defense, secretary of state, national security adviser, and a director of the cia that there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq. for a lot of the decisions that were made at the outset, they were decisions that were informed with incorrect information. as the committee is judging hagel on that decision as others, i want to tell the committee that was the experience wasthis senator. -- with this senator. what i would like to do with my time, since there are a few...
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at the time, his words reflected the considered judgment and intelligence of the cia at home and around the world. if you look back at what he said 10 years ago, what are the lessons for american foreign policy? guest: i can tell you that the lesson for me was that i made a terrible mistake of believing that speech. of all of the people in the administration, i never believed colin paulo would misrepresent the facts and lead them to believe we should support the argument he laid out. it was the predominant reason why someone like me, who had less inclination to believe anything that dick cheney or george bush had to say about iraq cows i said paul -- iraq, i said powell would never mislead us. i hold him accountable for believing -- convincing people that we should fall in line. it was erroneous and did not have the underpinning of anything that resembled the accurate information that would have just applied -- justify the speech in the first place. host: we are talking with marc ginsberg in new york. we have a call from mississippi. caller: i am proud of our president. he is a thinking
at the time, his words reflected the considered judgment and intelligence of the cia at home and around the world. if you look back at what he said 10 years ago, what are the lessons for american foreign policy? guest: i can tell you that the lesson for me was that i made a terrible mistake of believing that speech. of all of the people in the administration, i never believed colin paulo would misrepresent the facts and lead them to believe we should support the argument he laid out. it was the...
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in afghanistan, according to the cia fact book, literacy rate overall is 20%. given those numbers, how difficult is it your job of getting information to afghanis? guest: when you see almost 28% of the country is illiterate, meaning more than 72% mark is illiterate, that means we are faced with people they are not easy to receive things or digest things, so it is very hard in a country like afghanistan with the fact that more than 70% are illiterate, on the other hand, in afghanistan security, reaching for the people because of bad [indiscernible] because of the geographic afghanistan, it is hard to work, but it does not mean it will stop us. host: our guest abdul mujeeb khalvatgar is director of nai media institute. we're talking about journalism in afghanistan, how afghanis get their news and the freedom of the press in that country. we want to take your phone calls on this. the numbers -- here is the world news section of the "wall street journal." afghan peace still sought in six months. i am wondering, is this the type of headlines afghanis would see, the
in afghanistan, according to the cia fact book, literacy rate overall is 20%. given those numbers, how difficult is it your job of getting information to afghanis? guest: when you see almost 28% of the country is illiterate, meaning more than 72% mark is illiterate, that means we are faced with people they are not easy to receive things or digest things, so it is very hard in a country like afghanistan with the fact that more than 70% are illiterate, on the other hand, in afghanistan security,...
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as you know, he served as cia director before he came secretary of defense in 2011. so for all those reasons, it is now my honor to introduce to you secretary leon panetta, and to welcome him to georgetown. [applause] >> thank you very much, bob. i really appreciate that very kind introduction. and i want to thank you for the invitation to be here, and to hopefully give you one of my last speeches as secretary of defense. and have a chance to be able to share some thoughts with all of you. you, about the challenges that we are confronting today, challenges related to security but more important, the challenges related to leadersh leadership. it's appropriate that i do this at georgetown. as a product of jesuit education, as a catholic, and as a beneficiary over the years of your outstanding faculty and staff, and your important policy contributions that this university has made in a number of areas. that affect the people of this country. i'm truly honored to have this opportunity today. i've had a deep and abiding respect for georgetown throughout, you know, almost
as you know, he served as cia director before he came secretary of defense in 2011. so for all those reasons, it is now my honor to introduce to you secretary leon panetta, and to welcome him to georgetown. [applause] >> thank you very much, bob. i really appreciate that very kind introduction. and i want to thank you for the invitation to be here, and to hopefully give you one of my last speeches as secretary of defense. and have a chance to be able to share some thoughts with all of...
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and that's against the cia directed syndrome strikes on militants living in the area. more than three quarter of the residence oppose the strikes. however, this opposition to american military policy does not mean that the people embrace the taliban or al qaeda. in fact it's the opposite. fewer than 10% of the people in the area supported the presence of al qaeda. and less than 20% supported the pakistani. and here's a telling finding we asked this question. which was peter bergen's idea sprip to give him credit for it on previous polls we conducted not with new america in --s a brilliant one. question the people to pick for who they would vote for. they said they would vote for either one. the support for the groups is quite very limited to a very small minority of people. instead of supporting the militant, interestingly enough, nearly seven out of ten residences of the place want the pakistani military, the pakistani military alone and without u.s. help to come in and pursue the militants and take care of them in the area. so pretty stunning finding. the popular sup
and that's against the cia directed syndrome strikes on militants living in the area. more than three quarter of the residence oppose the strikes. however, this opposition to american military policy does not mean that the people embrace the taliban or al qaeda. in fact it's the opposite. fewer than 10% of the people in the area supported the presence of al qaeda. and less than 20% supported the pakistani. and here's a telling finding we asked this question. which was peter bergen's idea sprip...
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now, drones are run, managed by the cia, some of them. there are also drones managed and run by the pentagon. correct? and who at the pentagon where is this authority at the pentagon and who makes the decisions on how widespread do you know is the drone program run by the pentagon? >> i don't know necessarily the scope of the program, but i can tell you that in recent weeks, that's something that leon paneta as he is doing his final media tour ahead of likely being out of the pentgon, very shortly has been talking a lot about and he kind of said that drone warfare is likely to be a staple of the american military for quite some time looking forward. that was an interview about two weeks ago. the top guy at the pentagon spoken out about and said it will be part of the future the way america handles the military and he spoke to the program's success as well. >> bill: we have been talking. a lot about who makes this decision to go after an american citizen or non-american citizen. >> right. >> with drones. right now, there is a cia program a
now, drones are run, managed by the cia, some of them. there are also drones managed and run by the pentagon. correct? and who at the pentagon where is this authority at the pentagon and who makes the decisions on how widespread do you know is the drone program run by the pentagon? >> i don't know necessarily the scope of the program, but i can tell you that in recent weeks, that's something that leon paneta as he is doing his final media tour ahead of likely being out of the pentgon,...
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another fallacy with this program, the cia is not part of that organization, there's no international authority that says a civilian agency can go over seas and kill people. >> cenk: map we have gone down this rabbit hole and we're in big trouble and it doesn't appear that anybody's doing a damn thing about it. colonel davis if you'd stick around for one more segment, i want to bring in -- >> sure. >> cenk: great i want to bring in michael hastings to talk about these drone strikes. you can care about america you've got to listen to what colonel davis is saying. he wrote a lot of bad things about america. i don't know if that deserves death, but it's not about him. it's about who we are. i want to keep talking about that with colonel divings and michael hastings when we come back. commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's
another fallacy with this program, the cia is not part of that organization, there's no international authority that says a civilian agency can go over seas and kill people. >> cenk: map we have gone down this rabbit hole and we're in big trouble and it doesn't appear that anybody's doing a damn thing about it. colonel davis if you'd stick around for one more segment, i want to bring in -- >> sure. >> cenk: great i want to bring in michael hastings to talk about these drone...
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we have former cia korea chief and retired lieutenant colonel ralph peters who says with dangerous countries like north korea and china acting up on cyber attacks, cutting defense spending could be deadly. first to you, what di do you mae of the video? >> the north koreans read a very rich life. north koreans are belligerent, noisy, they're insecure, they're feeling left behind, not members of the club, in other words they're really bad 13-year-olds yelling "mommy, i hate you." we need to be the adult, responded soberly and deliberately do not fall for that stuff. that doesn't mean they're not a danger, but despite on paper, it is an antiquated if not huge military. the greatest danger to me his miscalculation especially on the north korean side, they live on another planet. liz: how could the north koreans miscalculate the u.s.? go ahead. >> they did so because they got away with so many publications in 2010 that once again any provocation to do with it is another nuclear test or an actual attack, washington an wil feel so intimidated we will not have any kind of response out of fear it wil
we have former cia korea chief and retired lieutenant colonel ralph peters who says with dangerous countries like north korea and china acting up on cyber attacks, cutting defense spending could be deadly. first to you, what di do you mae of the video? >> the north koreans read a very rich life. north koreans are belligerent, noisy, they're insecure, they're feeling left behind, not members of the club, in other words they're really bad 13-year-olds yelling "mommy, i hate you."...
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>> this is all going to come to a head this week with the confirmation hearings for the new cia director john brennan. in this bipartisan letter, they're urging the president to produce these highly classified memos that authorize the targeted killing program. so to quote congress and the public can decide whether the president's power to deliberately kill american citizen is is subject to appropriate limitations and safe guards in a recent interview the aclu said the memos should be reduced, claiming they're in direct conflict with the rule of law. >> so violates the very idea of having a rule of law, and then to have the architect of the whole program get a major promotion and be brought up for cia director. the senate intelligence committee has to have ask some hard questions of mr. brennan. >> those senators said in the letter in a thinly veiled warning if these memos are not provided or there's not good cooperation from the administration they're going to hold or block the nomination of brennan or hagel. >> north korean leaders released a video, set to the tune of wow we are the wor
>> this is all going to come to a head this week with the confirmation hearings for the new cia director john brennan. in this bipartisan letter, they're urging the president to produce these highly classified memos that authorize the targeted killing program. so to quote congress and the public can decide whether the president's power to deliberately kill american citizen is is subject to appropriate limitations and safe guards in a recent interview the aclu said the memos should be...
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panetta, i feel like i have been jerked around by every cia director. my question to you is: knowing your background, knowing your jesuit education, knowing what i think your values are, kihave your word that you -- can i have your word that you will be very forthcoming with this committee to speak truth to power, to speak truth about power and even when it's uncomfortable, where we have to probe in a way that is not an easy way to go? >> former adviser to the president reagan, pat buchanan is here. do you have problems with the program to use drones to kill americans overseas if they are believed to be associated with al qaeda. >> vinever seen a bigger assort ion of imperial presidency than that. the president is claiming the right for himself and high-rank subordinates to identify what they consider a threat, imminent threat, the right to use a hell-fire missile to kill them, even if they are an american citizen. i have never heard of this before. i don't think it's going to stand. i think the congress of the united states, which has the power over th
panetta, i feel like i have been jerked around by every cia director. my question to you is: knowing your background, knowing your jesuit education, knowing what i think your values are, kihave your word that you -- can i have your word that you will be very forthcoming with this committee to speak truth to power, to speak truth about power and even when it's uncomfortable, where we have to probe in a way that is not an easy way to go? >> former adviser to the president reagan, pat...
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will counter terrorism advisor john brennan become the head of the cia. he testifies tomorrow on capitol hill. some liberals don't like him because he is the director of the drone program that kills terrorists from the sky. president obama very bullish on the drones. >> the strikes are legal. they are ethical and they are wise. the u.s.a. government takes great care in deciding to pursue an al qaeda terrorist to ensure precision and avoid loss of innocent life. >> bill: here now to discuss his moral dilemma over the drone issue, the co-host of the five bob beckel. all right. so, first of all, would you make brennan the head of the cia? >> not with that policy, no. until that policy was changed, i would hold him up. >> bill: he is the architect of the policy. >> that's a good reason. >> bill: you won't vote for him. >> i wouldn't vote for him unless that policy changed. talking about going after american citizens who yes are associated with terrorist groups i understand that no evidence they are doing anything about an imminent threat to the united states.
will counter terrorism advisor john brennan become the head of the cia. he testifies tomorrow on capitol hill. some liberals don't like him because he is the director of the drone program that kills terrorists from the sky. president obama very bullish on the drones. >> the strikes are legal. they are ethical and they are wise. the u.s.a. government takes great care in deciding to pursue an al qaeda terrorist to ensure precision and avoid loss of innocent life. >> bill: here now to...
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panetta, i feel i've been drug around by every cia dra director. knowing your background and your education, and knowing what i think your values are and can i have your word you're going to be very swift coming to this committee to speak truth power, speak truth about power and even when it's uncomfortable where we're going to have to prove there's not an easy way to go. >> greta: former presidential advisor, do you have any problem with this drone program to kill americans overseas if it's thought that they are somehow associated with al-qaeda, or al-qae. >> i've never seen a better claim of-- the president of the united states is claiming the right not only for himself, but for high ranking subordinates what they consider in another country, the hell fire missile to kill them even if they're an american citizen. i've never heard of that before. i don't think it's going to stand. the congress will have to get in on this and i think a judicial review when you're killing americans abroad deliberately. >> greta: and coming out tomorrow, which of cou
panetta, i feel i've been drug around by every cia dra director. knowing your background and your education, and knowing what i think your values are and can i have your word you're going to be very swift coming to this committee to speak truth power, speak truth about power and even when it's uncomfortable where we're going to have to prove there's not an easy way to go. >> greta: former presidential advisor, do you have any problem with this drone program to kill americans overseas if...
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when i joined the cia in august 1980 world events were unsettled. our embassy in tehran had been overrun the year before, and 52 americans were still being held hostage by a radical government in iran. soviet invasion of afghanistan was less than a year old and the next decade we'd witness the slow, but steady crumbling of the soviet union and nuclear proliferation and weapons of mass destruction were a constant concern and u.s. officials were hard at work around the globe trying to prevent regional tensions and animosity from turning into full-scale wars and ominously, the united states was about to face an upsurge in terrorist attacks that would claim hundreds of american drives in lebanon including a 49-year-old cia officers named bob ames, killed during a brief visit to our embassy in beirut and who at the time was my boss at the cia. during my 25 year career at cia i watched up close and participated in history being made in far off corners of the world and cia fulfilled its critical intelligence role collecting intelligence, uncovering secrets
when i joined the cia in august 1980 world events were unsettled. our embassy in tehran had been overrun the year before, and 52 americans were still being held hostage by a radical government in iran. soviet invasion of afghanistan was less than a year old and the next decade we'd witness the slow, but steady crumbling of the soviet union and nuclear proliferation and weapons of mass destruction were a constant concern and u.s. officials were hard at work around the globe trying to prevent...
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house counterterrorism adviser john brennan faces his confirmation hearing as proposed head of the cia. he is described as a chief architect not only of the drone program, the targeted killing program but also these new cyber rules of engagement. speaking to reporters overseas the defense secretary warned very publicly of the rising threat and the implications if the u.s. fails to take the initiative. we don't have that sound right there. what secretary man pan has said on countless occasion is he's warned of a cyber warfare specifically the targeting of the u.s. infrastructure. the power grid, the banking system and done so in a way that it would cripple the u.s. economy and we have that sound byte now. let's listen. >> we are living in a world now where we are increasingly vulnerable to cyber attacks. this is the whole new battlefield. you can use cyber to basically take down our power grid system in the united states, you can taous cyber to take dow use cyber to take down our government si systems our banking systems. >> it's almost a one-two punch where it's there is a cyber attack
house counterterrorism adviser john brennan faces his confirmation hearing as proposed head of the cia. he is described as a chief architect not only of the drone program, the targeted killing program but also these new cyber rules of engagement. speaking to reporters overseas the defense secretary warned very publicly of the rising threat and the implications if the u.s. fails to take the initiative. we don't have that sound right there. what secretary man pan has said on countless occasion is...
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see, when the president ramps up the war on terror or decides to move into another area or use the cia to engage people, whether to arrest them or to kill them, he's required to tell the senate and house intelligence committees ahead of time and get their consent. he apparently didn't do that, and so they're burned by this. >> shannon: yeah, not the first time on an important issue that that's happened. what about the fact that we have seen other memos unrelated to this out there, but the way they classify terrorism they also look at domestic terror issues, and there are those -- there have been memos out there, you've seen them, i've seen them, that have suggested that people that have extreme religious views, people who are pro life, some of those people could be considered in some ways domestic terrorists. they're on watch lists or should be monitored by the government. how far can this be taken. >> earlier in this administration, janet napolitano, no relation, the secretary of homeland security, issued a very startling memorandum. i remember discussing it with bill o'reilly in a wh
see, when the president ramps up the war on terror or decides to move into another area or use the cia to engage people, whether to arrest them or to kill them, he's required to tell the senate and house intelligence committees ahead of time and get their consent. he apparently didn't do that, and so they're burned by this. >> shannon: yeah, not the first time on an important issue that that's happened. what about the fact that we have seen other memos unrelated to this out there, but the...
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when i joined the cia in august 1980 world events were unsettled. our embassy in tehran had been overrun the year before, and 52 americans were still being held hostage by a radical government in iran. soviet invasion of afghanistan was less than a year old and the next decade we'd witness the
when i joined the cia in august 1980 world events were unsettled. our embassy in tehran had been overrun the year before, and 52 americans were still being held hostage by a radical government in iran. soviet invasion of afghanistan was less than a year old and the next decade we'd witness the